SO SAYS THE VATICAN ****
Is this related to a new pope?
I transcribed the material below from
a 3-hour interview of Tom Horn and Steve Quayle by Hagmann and Hagmann, so this is a labor of
love, but this is so critically important that I did it for my readers, most of
whom do not have 3 extra hours in their lives (You’re welcome :-)
Tom’s new book, EXO VATICANA, about
the Vatican and the next pope, will be out April 15th. You can read
more about it at his website HERE
The interview itself (audio) may be heard here:
(P.S. I respect Steve Quayle’s
expertise in the field of giants and archaeology but don’t care to hear him
talk. 90% of the video is Tom Horn, but I did include Quayle’s relevant input.)
I have inserted numbers throughout to
identify the point on the video so that if a person wants to hear it themselves
they will know about where to go.
My comments are in red.
INTERVIEW
Tom was invited to Italy to talk about
his new book, and declined for security reasons, but instead went to Arizona to
Mt Graham, the world renowned Vatican observatory (VATT). People worldwide vie
for time on their advanced telescopes, including the LUCIFER infrared technology,
which picks up things which cannot be seen with other scopes. The Vatican website has a curious description,
saying LUCIFER is for the purpose of looking at Nibiru/Nemesis (This is PLANET X). This planet is connected with wars
between Lucifer and God…and destruction of Rahab (planet). Is Rome using this device to see things
others cannot see, and which represent that war or the approaching fallen
angels? They’ve already said they are expecting alien beings from space.
Guy Consolmagno
from the Vatican has said the world will
soon look to the aliens for its salvation.
The Jesuits will deny any part in the naming of LUCIFER; we accept that,
but what they don’t point out is that they are an integral part of the entire
complex and are part of the consortium with the German astronomers who did
name it – and who are connected to the Nazi scientists. The Vatican, US, Italy
and Germany are all connected to this and have access to VATT. 21:57
Is Mt. Graham the location of a dimensional
portal? The American Indians seem to think so … it traditionally has had to do
with ancient giants. The highway that goes up to Mt Graham is known as the
Devil’s Highway, 666. And naming it LUCIFER is a coincidence?!
Mountains (high places) are
universally connected to the gods. 30:00
St Carlos Apache has an ancient tale
re: a race of giants who were ‘judged and destroyed by the Great Father.” One
day they were invaded by these giants and nearly wiped them out. Has remarkable
likeness to Gen 6. The mountain is also linked to the Indian creation
stories…they also talk about the Owl (occult symbol) linked to it. Also a
dragon who talked like a man and tried to make deals with the Indians for their
women…many legends like this….connecting genetic material, etc. 35:00. According
to Indian lore the giants ate the children of the Indians in exchange for
knowledge. 38:00
Now we wait for Petrus Romanus (“Peter
the Roman,” and the name of Tom Horn’s previous book) to appear, the final Pope, according to
St Malachy’s Prophecy. He can appear at any moment.
The intellectuals at the Vatican are
formulating doctrine about what they secretly know and believe: that we are close to integration with aliens, and
that this will reconfigure established doctrine and salvation. Alien
influence will be led by a man of great intelligence, who will introduce a NEW
DOCTRINE. They have written and published about this. Bible prophecy talks
about such a man, who will arrive at the end with fearful great signs and lying
wonders…God will send a strong delusion so that they will believe a lie. Daniel
11:39 says that the Antichrist will be a worshipper of the God of Forces … an alien
god?
42:00
VATT is using LUCIFER technology to study either 1) a series of planets
under the control of Lucifer himself, or 2) they are watching something like an
alien armada on a trajectory to earth. This goes back to Fr. Malachi Martin
when he hinted that alien disclosure would be soon forthcoming. He said that
more than once. This was in 1997, on
Coast to Coast. Art Bell asked what the Vatican’s interest was in Mt. Graham.
Martin said the mentality at the highest levels of the Vatican know what’s
going on in space and what’s approaching
us. He later said it was coming from the north; some who know him think he was
talking about aliens. [Martin, an ex-Jesuit, worked at
the highest levels of the Vatican and was a friend of popes for years; he wrote
6-7 books, all of which I have. Martin died over ten years ago; it is believed
that he was murdered because he revealed much.]
46:00 QUAYLE:. We are talking about a
global agreement to welcome Lucifer back to the planet with all their
technology – and to do everything possible to get him here to rule on earth.
What’s coming in is an alien armada, says Quayle’s sources. Governments all
over the world have black assets looking for this. 49:00
Tom: There is a mass, or something
moving toward earth, with a definite arrival destination. It can only be seen
using Lucifer-like infrared technology, and it’s being monitored by Mt. Graham
and several global governments. Remember
Phobos? [Evidently one of Tom’s sources] Years
before this infrared technology, and a couple of years before the Vatican
spokespersons started talking so much, Phobos had said that when you see the
Vatican start talking about this,
know that the clock is ticking down. Shortly after that Fr Guy Consolmagno put
out his little book, talking about our space brothers. Years before, Phobos had
told me something that I had speculated about, which was that the world gov’ts
were secretly using infrared to monitor a hidden UFO armada beyond the view of
our technology. It now seems to be set to unfold this year 54:00.
Rome is paving the way for an alien savior, and there are
reasons they are doing that which are beyond their control. [The aliens are in control.] They also believe this
will lead the masses to believe that God is going to use these aliens in a way
that he used them once before. In other words, they are interpreting them as angels
(good angels) – God’s angels in creation. And according to the Vatican’s top
theologians this is going to be presented in a way that does not immediately
require us to explicitly renounce our faith in God – but it is going to
require radical reinterpretation of Christianity. It’s also going to be
useful in establishing a global system of religion, another goal the Vatican
has emphasized lately. The ripple effect is going to eliminate any discernible
obstacles to articulating a global religion that honors the cosmologies of all
faiths united by an Extra Terrestrial influence. 55:44
We are facing a massive deception
that’s being planned. What the people of the world are about to see is a false
Second Coming. The Vatican is promoting the idea that aliens can be redeemed,
that they are going to spring at the right moment, that God is an alien power, and
that Jesus was either a hologram or a genetically engineered super alien who
came to save us. It’s not a false rapture; they’re going to substitute the
alien god in place of the real God, and people will be deceived. They are also
saying that aliens may be closer to God than we are – morally superior – and they will be coming here to evangelize us,
to show us a ‘better way.’ That’s why the Vatican’s top theologians are saying
we won’t immediately have to renounce our faith in God, but once we understand
the gospel as they do, we will accept it, that they are closer to God than we
are; we fell - they didn’t. They’ll be
led by some type of a leader who I guess will be held up as a savior.
There is a doctrine called “many
Christs.” This is very popular to Vatican astrobiologists, that Christ might
have been manifested in many ways on many worlds, to all kinds of beings, but
those who haven’t fallen have remained fully in His grace! Unlike us – we are
fallen. And since they are morally and spiritually superior to us, they are
coming to evangelize us and show us this ‘better doctrine.’
This is the great deception. And it is
imminent. 60:00
Most of the world’s people are going
to be looking to traditional world leaders to put the revelation of aliens into
context, and the Vatican believes it is uniquely positioned to fill this role.
They’ve been actively preparing for this moment for years. Msgr Balducci has
been the senior mouthpiece of the church considering the reality of aliens on earth now. Balducci said the Vatican is
closely following the alien presence on
earth now, and using its embassies around the world to quietly compile
material evidence on the aliens and their mission.
Remember the high profile attorney,
Daniel Sheehan, a very high profile attorney on famous cases. He tried to crack
open the secret UFO files that are being held in the vaults of the Vatican
library. He was also the general counsel to the US Jesuit HQ in Washington,
D.C. He made a request at the behest of the US Government and President Jimmy
Carter to the Vatican to get those files. Carter in 1977 had asked to have
evidence of the existence of alien intelligence that was being held in the
Vatican, and Sheehan got permission from Fr Bill Davis, and an official request
was submitted by the Jesuit HQ in the US, by the US Library of Congress, and by
the President of the United States. Both Sheehan and Davis were surprised that
not even they would be allowed to see
this secret information. They were flatly turned down by the Vatican. 74:00
(Discussion by Steve Quayle of the
American Southwest and alien skulls being found that are ancient; they were the
ones who influenced and were worshipped by the ancient American Indians.) [Quayle has written the definitive book on archaeological
proof of giants throughout history, and is considered the expert on the subject.]
We’re all familiar with the Smithsonian
cover up of relics of giants. We live in a time where it’s becoming more and
more impossible for the powers that be to do what the Smithsonian did, by
hiding these giants so that the public won’t find out about them and reveal
true history, the true date of the earth, etc. But now, with the internet, all
these things are coming out due to all the private researchers and armchair
astronomers. It’s getting more difficult to hide the truth. We know without a
doubt that they existed on earth, and also that they exist on earth right now, and I’m talking about alive and
breathing.
And if you’re a biblical literalist
(like Tom Horn) we know that the Bible predicted that at the end times this
would be one of the signs of the times - the return on earth of the Nephilim.
The ancient Hebrews who translated the Septuagint into Greek understood that
the prophet Isaiah (in chapters 13 and 14) was predicting the return of the
giants with monsters, at the advent of the destruction of Babylon. We’ve talked
about that before in ch. 13: “Open the gates ….giants are coming to fulfill my
wrath..” etc. The 16th
chapter of the Book of Enoch writes of the deceased offspring of the Watchers
as being released at the end of time, and will bring slaughter and destruction
upon man. This is a part of the great tribulation, God’s Day of Wrath, when
Satan and his angels punish the unbelieving world before they are assigned to
the pit. Watchers will rise for judgment, but the spirits of their dead
offspring will rise ahead of them, and will be re-manifested on earth to wreak
havoc. [NOTE: Pember talks about this, too.] The
Book of Jubilees also talks about this.
God is opening the eyes of men and
women in these times just as the Book of Daniel predicted. Isaac Newton also predicted certain people
would understand in the end times. There was also an advance scouting space
armada that was reported, and apparently God’s forces stopped them from
entering our space. People have a hard time wrapping their brains around this
stuff, which is understandable because it’s so out of bounds, but people who
live and work in the space area see it all the time; we are now living in that
time. It will soon be impossible to
ignore when the people are being told to worship these new gods. People need to
make sure of their salvation through Jesus Christ because the deception will be
unprecedented.
While the Vatican will be in the
forefront of controlling the flow of disclosure information for the religious
communities, they’re certainly not alone among consulting academia. For
instance, there are astronomers who are working to pinpoint the alien home
bases. This is part of what Is a real mystery to us right now. A lot of this is
being funded by the Templeton Foundation, a philanthropic organization that’s
interested in genetics and trans humanism as the path toward hybridizing
humanity into post-human. They’re the
ones who have been funding the series of lectures at Arizona State University,
about trans humanism, religion, science and technology. In 2009 that led to a
second project, The Sophia Project, named after the Greek goddess Sophia
because this goddess is the one who they believe helps us make contact with
them. It says this right on the ASU website.
There’s another university which we
suspect could be involved in the cover up of the – now when I say ‘alien’ you
can just insert the word ‘demonic’ (says Tom Horn here) – the cover up of the
aliens, artifacts and/or mysterious technology. And this is Penn State. The
story seems to go back to 2005, when suddenly a story shot across the web about
a giant Leviathan-type creature that had been discovered in the polar ice of
Franz-Josef-Land, reported to have horns, was an incredible length, and body
was covered like an armadillo [this whole story is at
85:00 if you want to hear the rest of this….lts very interesting, but too much
to type]. Ends around 95:00.
{{ This story has new life…helicopter
pilot who filmed it – other evidence unearthed that suggested that there was a
much deeper mystery. A senior lecturer, P.J. Capelotti , who just before the
hoax this guy had been conducting archaeological studies at Franz-Josef-Land
and he applied to the UN for archaeological funds to study this… “aerospace
archaeology’….Capelotti wrote a book “Human Archaeology of Space” … he discusses this leviathan and
admits making two trips up there and talks about an enormous spacecraft that
the Russians had tried to hide and bury. How would it have the power to alter humanity
through technology? (91:00)…was the pilot paid off for his silence? This happens
over and over again in our corrupt gov’t. }} This story ends around 95:00.
Anyway, what we have right now is a
breaking through in archaeology, relics, etc. I’m afraid Christians are about
to have their entire paradigm shaken to the core.
Guy Consolmagno sent Tom a 70-page PDF
outlining the alien issues by the top thinkers in the Vatican. He refers to
Jesus as someone we might think of as a child of one of these alien races .. is
he suggesting that the impregnation of Mary – something very sacred – was an
alien abduction phenomenon?
Archaeologists in 2003 discovered an
electrical anomaly in the ground by the Euphrates River, and it turned out to
be the lost tomb of Gilgamesh. When that was found, Quayle was in touch with a
group of people in our government whose sole goal was to secure that DNA. The whole
purpose of the Iraqi invasion had nothing to do with WMD. They pilfered all
the excavations. One general told him point blank that everything in the world
of Black Ops is either to secure antiquities, or to acquire the weaponry and
technology to integrate into our battle plans. If anyone doubts any of this
they can email Tom Horn and he will send them the information of where the
stories remain online, the Syrian Int’l News Agency, ABC, BBC. This was
mainstream news. [I’ll never forget the day of the
Iraqi invasion…the first thing the US did was to ‘secure the Library of Antiquities’
(loot it). I remember saying to my husband: “Why would the library be the #1
thing they do?? ]
Why is that important? Because
Gilgamesh was Nimrod, and in the NT this is the same personality that is
described as the Antichrist. (He that was, and is not, and shall be … ) Apollyon.
Gilgamesh to the Sumerians … one god-man was named numerous names in all the numerous
nations, but they were in reality, all the same god. In our country’s high
intelligence, they are fully aware of these prophecies, and when somebody finds
the legendary tomb of King Gilgamesh, a few seconds later you have American
troops surrounding the place. It’s interesting that the discovery is the same
location that’s mentioned in Rev. 9 when John describes the bottomless pit
opening up. The gateway to the underworld is located near the Euphrates where
ancient Babylon stood, and that’s where they discovered the tomb. Within hours
the US military secreted it away to places unknown.
According to Graham Hancock, the US
blocked independent investigations around the Sphinx. Why? Some think there’s a
hall of records and an ancient library containing the history of Atlantis and
the like.
We tracked down a forgotten secret
report by the Brookings Institute (it will be included with the book, Exo
Vaticana, for those who purchase it) from the 1960s, written for NASA, in which
they argued in favor of NASA and other agencies withholding evidence of alien
artifacts because it might upset the balance of society if it wasn’t introduced
in the right way and at the right time. What’s interesting is that they were PARTICULARLY
concerned about fundamentalist Christians, and that these Christians might even
DEFINE THE ISSUES through broadcast and print media…[Ya think?!]
104:00 … and further they said that
these institutions should be infiltrated and gradually steered toward a
particular mindset.
But WE’RE TALKING here about the One
True God, The Lord of Hosts. These governments and such may find themselves
in a battle that they cannot win. A General
told Steve that all of their high tech, etc. is designed for one single
purpose: Satan and his minions, and his willing dupes in the Illuminati. ALL
BELIEVE LITERALLY THAT THEY CAN MAKE WAR ON GOD. [Talk
about your great delusions…]
[This is why I took the time
to transcribe some of this radio show. THIS IS INFORMATION CHRISTIANS SIMPLY
MUST WAKE UP AND KNOW ABOUT.] 107:00
There is so little discernment in the
church that they could put the devil in a tutu and everyone would think this is
some new rock star. That may sound
silly, but we’re seeing very brazen stuff. We’re already seeing Hollywood
selling their souls to the devil and openly admitting it…and Satanic rituals at
worldwide events such as the Olympics and the Super Bowl, and people are
accepting and applauding it.
The Giza Plateau … it’s not what’s
above ground; it’s what’s under the ground that’s important. Again from the
military: those guarding it are starting to see giant sarcophagi floating out due
to the flooding after an earthquake.18-24’ tall. People just can’t imagine
this.
Native Americans… Quayle has never
seen so many multi-tribal accounts of 40-80’ tall entitites…We’re
talking about the end of everything; we’re surrounded by so much evidence, all
telling the same stories. [Steve Quayle wrote ‘the
book’ on giants; I have it. All the archaeological evidence, pictures, etc.,
going back centuries. It’s the definitive book on the subject.] The
Indians knew how to work the star gates. They did it with flutes.
110:00
Question: Are you saying there are aliens
on earth today that could be connected to the Illuminati, and that the Illuminati
believes they are descendants of the giants, and they’re waiting for the return
of their ancestors? Are there people in power across the world who believe they
are related to alien life forms so that when the aliens come back they’re going
to re-gain their power, saying they are part of the alien bloodlines? And part
of the bloodline of the Messiah? Jesus? So you will worship us ….?
Answer: If you read Nick Redfern’s
book, The Final Event, he talks about the Collins Elite, a group of people who
are ex-gov’t, who have a Christian worldview, who have studied the UFO
phenomenon, and they believe it is demonic and is leading to deception. I (Tom)
will be sitting down with them and interviewing them…I talked to Nick Pope, the
former Director of Military and Defense out of Great Britain, who ran their UFO
investigations for many years. I interviewed Pope, and it will be in the book,
but he assured me that there is among the aristocracy in Britain, certainly
those who are occultists and they very much do believe that they are
descendants from a reptilian race.
Now that sounds just unbelievable, right?
But these people do believe this. They do believe they are of particular
bloodlines, and they are very much committed to an occult world view
regarding UFOs and aliens.
And Tom told something else here that
he’s never discussed on radio before. One of the biggest secrets in the new
book, EXO-VATICANA, has to do with part of Tom’s family. He’s kept it buried
all of his life. A member(s) of his family, & state and federal gov’ts,
have a binding agreement; and one of his relatives was an atomics top secret worker
doing research into nuclear and biological warfare at General Atomics in San
Diego. At one point he was transferred to Los Alamos where he was involved with
top secret projects, the details of which at that time the family was oblivious
to. It was the lab that coordinated the Manhattan Project, but more sinister is
that this lab has been connected to secret alien underground facilities on the
New Mexico border near Dulce, to do genetic experiments on humans, to
investigate UFOs, even to five alien bodies (ET biological entities) that were
recovered in 1947 from Roswell and were purportedly sent to a safe house there
at Roswell.
It was during that time that this
family member was at Los Alamos doing top secret research; one night he came
home and got drunk and started talking about the lab, including information
about how it was involved with the alien agenda, and he started bragging about stuff
that I (Tom) won’t discuss on this show or any other show, but there’s an
entire chapter about it in the book. This has been concealed since the 1960s. What
happened following this relative’s admission speaks for itself because he
disappeared never to be heard of again. There’s a whole story about that. And the
story even covers government counselors and what can only be described as highly
placed covens within national agencies that direct alien abductees
according to certain protocols, the most explosive of which was uncovered when
a federal investigator worked with a member of his family concerning a
particular state that then connected to numerous other states, and they finally
had to settle with this member of his family and other ‘experiencers’ – as
alien abductees are called – in which an agreement was reached for their
silence. Tom personally attended two of those meetings in which the
investigators and the attorneys for both sides, and the federal investigator,
were in attendance. It was held inside the state building where the agreement
was reached. And once people know that story which has been buried since the
‘60s they will understand why it has been kept under wraps until now. It had to be. And, also, why I’ve had an
interest in understanding the alien abduction and hybridization scheme.
But the bottom line is that there is
definitely a very, very powerful and organized aspect to the whole so-called
alien abduction phenomenon, in which you have people who are members of the US
Gov’t in high profile positions, and they definitely believe they are dealing
with an intelligence from a hyper-dimensional reality, but which I would call
demonic and deceptive entities that are leading these people down a path toward
destruction. The chapter I am writing for the book will, he says, be absolutely
shocking.
[IS THIS WHY
TOM’S HOUSE WAS LIT ON FIRE AND BURNED TO THE GROUND LAST YEAR, and he and his
wife were inside and barely escaped with their lives?]
122:40. In researching the book, Chris (the
co-author, Chris Putnam) found a book by Fr Malachi Martin that we didn’t know
existed. It’s only published in French, 300 pages. In it he named certain popes
who were Freemasons, and he even talks about how the Vatican Secretary of State
had documentation of them in their rituals. All of this information will be
available with the book.
Q: That is so ‘in your face’ to name
that telescope LUCIFER. How will that impact Christians; could they get
“knocked off the rails” in their faith?
A. Knowledge is power. There is no
reason for people to be knocked off the rails.
But it’s very important for people to
be devoted to Christ and to biblical DOCTRINE. I was a pastor for 25 years, and
I had to be willing at some point to face the fact that some of the things I
was indoctrinated with in seminary was incorrect – such as the “Sethite” view
(that the “sons of God” in the OT were not angels that came down to
earth, married women and created giants), but were descendants of Seth - and of
course that view doesn’t explain anything. It was a lay person that came to me
to discuss what the Bible actually says about this, and I started rethinking
it, and studying the issues honestly, and my logical mind in the investigation
led to the “angel view” which all the early Christians accepted without
question. It was only in the 3rd century that someone came up with
the Sethite view, for political reasons, and no one ever questioned it,
apparently.
People who are honest and can listen
to what we are talking about need to judge for themselves. And I think they’re
going to have a very difficult time, if they read Exo Vaticana, with all of the
interviews and documentation, government people, world experts … they will have
a very difficult time dismissing that there is something unusual going on, and
part of it is at Mt Graham with VATT. When we went to VATT, we didn’t go with
preconceived answers. We went with questions for the astronomers and
theologians.
131:38
We talked with Guy Consolmagno, a top
astronomer and theologian, Vatican spokesman, works with NASA, taught at MIT,
who has studied this for years and officially represents the Vatican, and he
discussed all this from a theological viewpoint, saying society will soon look
to the aliens for ‘truth’ as the saviors of humankind, that humans are not the
only intelligent beings in God’s creation; nonhuman life forms are described in
the Bible, and then to illustrate the kind of aliens we’ll be in contact with, he
references the Nephilim specifically.
You have to ask yourself where these
people are coming from, especially when they start talking about Jesus
potentially being the child of another race, which is alien abduction by any
other way of thinking about it. Bottom line, the Vatican scholars we talked to
(and we didn’t talk to them all), the ones who are dealing with astrobiology,
they believe that Jesus may have been a star child of an alien race, and the
virgin birth in reality may have been an alien abduction. Now they may not use
that language, but all you need to do is read what they’re saying; that’s
exactly what they’re saying. She was impregnated by ET, gave birth to a hybrid
Jesus,
The Star Base, as the local Indians
call Mt Graham, includes the VP of the Observatory, Dr Christopher Corbally
– he says that our image of God is “going to have to change” when disclosure of
alien life is made and confirmed by scientists [so-called],
including to devolve from the concept of God we now have, into a broader entity
- meaning the earth is not special, humans are not special, there is
intelligent life all over the universe – some of them morally superior to us –
and God is the broad entity that created
all of them, and they’re coming here. They are going to teach us a better
way. Fr. Jose Funes at the Observatory
says that they are going to confirm “the true faith” of Christianity and the dominion
of Rome. When the Vatican-approved newspaper asked him what he meant by
that, he said, “How can we rule out that life has developed elsewhere, and just
as we consider earthly creatures as brothers and sisters, we would consider
them as extra-terrestrial brothers; they’re part of creation. And believing in
the existence of such is not a contradiction to CATHOLIC doctrine.” In other
words, it’s definitely going to be a contradiction to guys like me (Tom). So they
really are positioning themselves to be the
answer source for the world’s religious communities when official
disclosure is made. Now, they’re either putting themselves in that position
because they know something we don’t know – or they’re putting themselves in
that position because they suspect something.
135:00 Quayle talks … to 140:07
Tom: (Miscellaneous talk)…Back when I
was a young preacher who knew EVERYTHING ON EARTH J
and had my dispensational prophecy map on the wall that would tell me when
everything was going to happen, I
thought the whole idea of angels marrying women was the craziest thing I’d ever
heard, but over time I came to realize that it’s the only thing that really
explains things. In fact, I’m at the place now - kind of like Chuck Missler
says - that unless you understand the angels marrying humans phenomenon you
cannot understand most of the OT. Until you get to the point where you
understand what happened in that one single scenario you can’t understand most
of the OT. You definitely can’t understand the war between genetics, the seed
of the woman and the seed of Satan. You can’t understand what’s even being
talked about.
But the question is - not just, was
there an early vanguard of fallen angels … or did it happen once before … but
is it happening right now? Are there on earth humans that are only part
human genetics and part something else? This is a question that raises a
significantly distressful question. Are there human-like creations on earth
that do not have a redeemable soul in the Judao-Christian sense? That
is, the soul of a human is different than that of any animal, or that of
angels, and that man alone was made in God’s image, and within the essence of
the human person is the capacity of a union with God and transcendence from
mortal to redeemed immortality after death. There is a debate over this
question that right now probably most people on the internet may not know much
about, but it is a furious debate that is going on among some scholars. It
extends as far back as the early Christian fathers, throughout the Middle Ages,
especially during the Inquisition. The question is whether hybrid humans can be
redeemed. This is a question that resurfaced not long ago.
I was having lunch with the State
Superintendent of the Oregon District Assemblies of God and he leaned forward
and said, “Tom, I just read The Ahriman Gate that you wrote. It was good, but
one thing really bothered me. That part where human genetics were combined with
what the scientist in the book thought was alien DNA, and this led to the
revival of Nephilim. I never liked talking about that subject when I was a
pastor because I hate the implications. There could be mutant humans that
cannot be saved.”
Well, his abhorrence of the issue is
shared by all people of good will. Me, too. But whether we like it or not that
doesn’t change the fact that Nephilim, as described in the O.T., and in the Book
of Enoch, were devoid of redeemable souls and spirits. Gen 6;9, ONLY Noah and
by extension his children, are found “perfect in their generations.” The Hebrew
word means “without blemish, or healthy.” They’re the only ones that can be
saved from the flood. The same word is used in Leviticus to describe an
unblemished sacrificial lamb, and of course we certainly know that it doesn’t
mean that Noah was morally perfect, but that his genetics had not been
contaminated with Nephilim descent, as apparently the rest of the world had been.
And so in order to preserve mankind as He had made them, God destroys all but
Noah and Noah’s family in the flood. And the ancient records, including those
of the Bible, consistently describe the cause of the flood as happening because
all flesh became corrupted. Both man and beast. That’s what the Bible says.
Now, the question of whether corrupted
or altered humans had redeemable souls, this is a very difficult subject to
talk about, but note what happened. When the angels asked the prophet (Enoch)
to beseech God for the salvation of their children, “then I went and spoke to
them all together, and they were afraid, and fear and trembling seized them,
and they besought me to draw up a petition for them, that they might find forgiveness,
and to read their petition in the presence of the Lord of Heaven. From thence
forward they could not speak with Him, nor lift up their eyes to Heaven for
shame of their sins for which they had been condemned.”
Now Enoch takes this petition to God.
He informs the Watchers afterward, and their hybrid children. He informs them
of their situation, whether they can be redeemed. “I wrote out your petition.
And in my vision it appeared thus, that your petition will not be granted you
throughout all the days of eternity and that judgment has been finally passed
upon you. Yea, your petition will not be granted you, and from hence forward
you shall not ascend into heaven, but unto all eternity and in bonds of the
earth the decree has gone forth to bind you for all the days of the world. And
that previously you shall have seen the destruction of your beloved sons and
you shall have no pleasure in them, but they shall fall before you by the sword
and your petition in their behalf shall not be granted, nor yet on your own,
even though you weep and pray and speak all the words contained in the writing
which I have written.”
So, therefore, based on the Book of
Enoch and reflected in the Bible in Genesis, Jude, and 2 Peter, redemption was
not possible for any of the fallen Watchers or their hybrid offspring even
though the Nephilim were part human.
Now in that sense, Nephilim, maybe
they’re compared to an extraordinary primate, intelligent-like men and angels
maybe even possessing human genetics, but not homosapien, as fashioned by God
in His image. There’s further confirmation of their status as irredeemable, and
we also learn from the strange narrative that there was this primeval belief
that’s reflected in the OT concerning two types of resurrection from the dead –
one that’s strictly terrestrial; that is, a dead Nephilim can return from the
grave to inhabit another corruptible body of flesh; but a second future
resurrection in which eternal glorified bodies are only for those who sleep in
Christ. And Isaiah makes it very clear that the Watcher offspring, in Ch 26:14
he refers to them as the Raphaim – that they cannot participate in the latter
resurrection. “They are dead. They shall not live.” “They are deceased. They
shall not rise. Therefore thou hast visited them and destroyed them and made
all their memory to perish.” The word that’s rendered ‘deceased’ from the Hebrew there is ‘shades or ghosts of
the dead.’ So, we see echoed how the
term Raphaim is used in two senses: 1) for human and Nephilim, spirits in the
underworld, 2) but in another sense, terrestrial giant.
We’re going to write something that’s
never been written before, in EXO VATICANA, in which we take the text from
Northern Syria, in which there are Canaanite rituals for summoning the Raphaim
from the underworld, how to bring them forth so that they can be manifested in
bodies of flesh. 150:16 (Quayle goes
off on a tangent about redeemable…)
155:38
Talking about the Canaanites beckoning the dead. While they did that,
though, the Prophet Isaiah actually described those shades greeting the
defeated King of Babylon within the infernal region. Is 14:9 says: “Hell from
beneath is moved to meet thee at thy coming; it stirreth up the dead,” and that
Hebrew word for ‘dead’ is Raphaim…”it stirreth up the Raphaim for thee, even
all the chief ones of the earth…” The passage is actually mocking the King of
Babylon as spirits of dead royalty – according to their belief system – welcoming
him to the underworld. But this also prefigures the final fall of Babylon, like
you read about in Rev. 17 and 19 … at the defeat of Satan, as in Luke 10 and
12. It also even looks back on the fall of Nimrod (Gen 11), who was also
believed to be a giant. So, it’s clear that the term ‘Raphaim’ designated
earthly giants, because in Numbers 13:33 the sons of Anak are said to literally
be descended from children of the Nephilim. And these Anakim are described as
“Raphaim” in Deut. 2. So, the ancient Hebrews translated the Septuagint into
Greek, understanding that Isaiah was using ‘raphaim’ in this second sense to
predict a return of these giants with monsters as we said earlier, at the
advent of the destruction of Babylon. But it also describes dead Nephilim;
that’s the way the Amorites looked at it, and Isaiah seems to go along with
that idea that dead Nephilim in the underworld are used by the title
“raphaim.” And under some extraordinary
circumstance they have the ability to rise back up into a temporal, a
corruptible, body. [I think this is where the idea of
reincarnation came from; the Nephilim were able to come back into bodies, and
they used the idea to deceive humans.] And that goes along with all of
these other various prophecies we were talking about, that in the Last Days,
like Enoch 16, the deceased offspring of the Watchers are released at the end
of time to bring forth slaughter and destruction upon man. Enoch 1:16 says “For
the days of the slaughter and destruction and the death of the giants, from the
souls of whose flesh the spirits have gone forth, shall destroy without
incurring judgment. Thus, shall they destroy until the day of the consummation,
the great judgment, in which the age shall be consummated over the Watchers and
the godless; yea, shall be wholly consumed.”
So there are all these various
prophecies that the OT prophets in the canonical scriptures seem to agree with,
that tell us that the last days are going to be accompanied with a return of
these giants. But my bigger statement was: based on the documentation that we
are working on right now [on his forthcoming book] there is a persuasive
argument that there are genetically altered humans on earth now. And in
fact, by the way, I already know that to be a fact because of the
research that we’re doing for the documentary on trans humanism – Super
Soldiers.
1:59:50 … Quayle interjects: I’ve been
told that every time there is a giant find or a mummy of a giant, the DNA is
preserved and they are using that. Can you imagine having some of the worst
entities in the history of the world in a new body or container being built for
them, and then the spirit’s being loosed, coming and reanimating those things?
Tom: Yeah, I got a bunch of emails
lately from people concerning the third season of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse
Ventura, and in particular, one edition that looked into human-animal hybrids
that supposedly have gone beyond the petri dish with rumors of a real live
planet of the apes being created (that’s a quote from their website). What the
people who are emailing me don’t know is that the producers contacted me late
in 2011 with a request for help. They wanted to know whether scientists had
secretly crossed the Rubicon with regard to human/animal genetic experiments. I
spent days, numerous hours, as a consultant, but turned down repeated requests
to be a part of Season 3, Episode 4, called Manimal, but you can go to Jesse
Ventura’s website and read about them. …
But I did set them up with a scientist at Stanford … there are DARPA budget
line items, and other proof that this has been done. Splice-like creatures in
labs of human/animal chimeras is simply no longer science fiction. I can
pinpoint 8 national primate research centers. Human/chimp hybrid has been born.
Then supposedly destroyed.
165:30
Today’s genetically modified
humans are now in their early teens… and the problem is
that they are are now going to pass forward those altered genes. Reproductive
work was being done at the St. Barnabas Lab in NJ. These kids are now about 13
years old, and their mitochondrial functions have all been altered. Organ
Health and Science University repeated these tests in 2008 and 2012 to produce
genetically engineered super babies. There is information that I can send to anyone
interested; it’s on the OHSU website, and it’s happening all over the world. In
fact, this year the Olympics underscored the science. A Chinese swimmer,
remember her? Super human type performance. John Leonard (?) The Director of
the World Swimming Coaches Assn described this 16-year old as suspicious and
unbelievable. This story is still out there on the internet. You can Google it.
And he said that the authorities that tested the girl for drug abuse should
have been checking t see if there was something going on genetically.
Human prenatal doses, screening fetal
genomes, designer children…those were just the first cracks a decade ago, and
experts are now finally beginning to admit it. Is there a place where this also
has a connection to the alien agenda? That’s the big question.
Quayle: And the answer is yes, from
science and military sources. The whole Human Genome Project was never about
genomes in the first place; they conquered that a long time ago. It was to
identify the Nephilim/fallen angel genetic markers and infuse it into the human race. The goal is to destroy the entire
human genome, and create a wonderful new trans human automaton. [I remember 15-20 years ago reading that this was being done
in hospitals to fetuses or newborns without
parental consent…how do we know when it started and who is really 100%
human EVEN NOW? Even our own offspring could have altered DNA if hospitals were
doing this unknown to parents. Is this why the Bible predicts the horrific
children….
“This know also, that in the last days
perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves,
covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful,
unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent,
fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers
of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying
the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Timothy 3:1-5
Tom: Yes, you and I know that to be a
fact. When we have done shows and interviews in the past we’ve had every agency
in the USG listening in. Ask yourself why did the World Economic Forum in
Davos…why in their new report, “Global Risk 2013” are they calling on
governments to do two things: 1) Genetically alter humans 2) Prepare for extra
terrestrial life contact. I have the full report, and it’s astonishing. Why
would they be combining genetically altered humans with the need to prepare for
extraterrestrial life
contact? It’s because they ARE connected. In fact, the
British Royal Academy of Engineering and the British Royal Society produced a
narrow joint study in 2012 called “Human Enhancement And The Future of War.”
They documented the alarming trend aimed at augmenting humans, cognitively and
physically; and they warned that we’re now entering into a hybrid age. There’s
an example from page 26 that highlights how people are going to be engineered
in the near future to have SERPENTINE qualities. [Any time the Gov’t says something is in the near future, that
means it’s been done for 20-30 years already.]
Here’s a short excerpt: (172:30) … The
report goes on to assure that tomorrow’s snake people can not only see
in the dark, but that they are appropriately plugged into the end times groove,
they’ll have borg-like physical digital enhancements like cybernetic implants
and advanced machine interfacing technology – all this according to the leading
and oldest scientific body in the world, The Royal Academy.
So, it’s coming, and the world better
get ready for it. And we’ve only barely scratched the surface. All of the documentation,
audio files, etc. that we will be providing in the 4/15/13 investigative report
called “Exo Vaticana” is highly documented, well researched; it’s not
speculative. I’m frankly not sure that people will be ready for what we’re
going to publish, but we’re going to do it, anyway, just like we always do.
174.50. Steve Quayle: (Recap) They can
insert serpentine DNA through chem trails, GMO food, vaccines, electromagnetic
radiation (smart meters?) They are working overtime to destroy the last human
seed of Adam, and that was the whole point.
This entire thing is about the war between the “seed of the woman” vs “the seed
of the serpent” according to Scripture, and this is Satan’s last shot at total
destruction of humanity … VERY FRIGHTENING.
177:00.
Tom: It’s revealing that many of the
technocrats that now envision the recalibrating of humanity into homo superior
admit in their own words to being influenced by Nietszche (God is dead), Goethe
and the like. So it’s the ancient Watchers again. But if a person knows who
they are in Jesus Christ, I believe that there can be supernatural protection, supernatural
intervention, something that preserves our genetic makeup – that it won’t touch
us. It’s like the plagues of Exodus, how the angel passed over the houses with
blood on the doorposts. I believe we’re in that same situation, and true
Christians may have to learn again pretty soon about the supernatural
intervention that can occur on our behalf when we are covered by the blood of
Jesus Christ.
End of article ……….
HAS THE LORD SEALED US? Is
our DNA immune from this? Tom believes we have supernatural protection. So do
I. It cannot touch us. We will be PASSED OVER. We are covered by the blood of
Jesus Christ. The Book of Revelation says:
Revelation 7:3 "Do not
harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of
our God on their foreheads."
Of course, I believe Rev.
7:3 refers to the 144,000. My personal belief is that the arrival of the
Nephilim and the Rapture will occur at approximately the same time, that God’s
Planet-X (referred to by Tom in the first part of this interview), the arrival
of the aliens, and the Rapture will happen at or near the same time.
Regardless, I believe that those who are born again (re-born) experience a DNA
change at that time, the seal of God, which can never be removed. God has everything covered.
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