Saints Alive in Jesus
Written by Ed Decker
Mitt Romney Christian or Cultist?
And the media frenzy about a Dallas Pastor
saying
Mormons are not Christians.
At a recent Perry
rally, Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress described the Mormon religion as a “cult,”
agreeing with about 75% of Christian pastors throughout the country. His sin
was saying it publicly in a political meeting.
The immediate and
relentless media response was to beat the issue to death, all the while bashing
the pastor and others like him for expressing their opinion publicly.
Fuller Seminary
President, Richard Mouw, a staunch defender of the Mormon Church, said this
about that:
Some prominent
evangelical pastors have been telling their constituents not to support Mitt
Romney’s bid for the presidential nomination. Because Romney is Mormon, they
say, to cast a vote for him is to promote the cause of a cult….. I beg to
differ….. While I am not prepared to reclassify Mormonism as possessing
undeniably Christian theology, I do accept many of my Mormon friends as genuine
followers of the Jesus whom I worship as the divine Savior. Richard J. Mouw,
Special to CNN October 9th, 2011
The Problem with
DR. Mouw and other Christian leaders like David Barton is that they don’t seem
to realize that their Mormon friends play the word/definition game with them,
all the while smiling like they are best of friends.
When I was a
Mormon, we called men like Mouw and Barton “Hirelings of Satan.” Now, in
the new, friendlier “Emergent” Mormon Church they are brothers. Seems more like
a pack of those ravening wolves the Scriptures warn us about. One of the signs
of a cult is that its adherents can tell a lie and smile at you the whole time
they practice their “heavenly deception.”
The Mormons know
from a hundred examples in history that if you tell a lie long enough, it
somehow makes it true.
A lie is a lie is
a lie is a lie until it isn’t a lie any more
This weekend, Newt
Gingrich said because the Federal and Supreme courts have taken constitutional
power away the Executive and Legislative Branches of government, they have the
power to say that 2 plus 2 is 5 and it would become the law of the land. But it
still doesn’t make it so..
Some lies that are
now being accepted as truths
Islam Koran and
Islam teach a religion of peace and respects all people
Israel
Aggressors/murderers and occupiers of Palestinian lands
Congress: we know
what we are doing. Your best interests are #1 concern
Mormonism: We are
Christians, just like you.
Let’s Look at the
Facts:
I am going to take
you through some of the Mormon truths that they don’t share with the Mouws and
the Bartons of the world. So that you cannot be accused of invention, every
statement herein is fully supported by Mormon Scripture or Legal documents.
The Christianity
of Mormonism
They claim they
are the:
Only True
Christians
Only True Church
Only True Jews
Only True
Scripture
Only True
Authority
Only true Prophet
Only true
priesthood
Only true doctrine
Only Truth
The center of
their faith:
“as Man is, god
once was, as god is, man may become”
The work of
mankind is the Preparation for godhood :
This is the
function and work of the LDS temples.
The core doctrines
of Mormon Christianity:
# 1: Nature of
God
Achieving
Celestial Marriage Manual (abbreviated ACCM), p.129.
God was once a
mortal man. He lived on a planet like our own. He experienced conditions
similar to our own and advanced step by step.
Mormon Doctrine
(abbreviated MD), p.322.
"Further, as
the Prophet also taught, there is a god above the father of our Lord Jesus
Christ...If Jesus Christ was the son of God, and John discovered that God the
Father of Jesus Christ had a father also...Was there ever a son without a
father?"
Doctrine and
Covenants (abbreviated D&C) 130:22.
God has a body of
flesh and bones as tangible as man's.
ACMM, p.129
God is now an
exalted man with powers of eternal increase. He lives in an exalted Marriage
relationship.
ACMM, p.129-130.
We are the literal
Children of God, a part of his family unit. We lived with our heavenly parents
before coming to earth.
ACMM, p.4.
...giving birth to
spirit children and setting them on the road to exaltation. And if this is to
be done, you must have an exalted man and an exalted woman.
MD, p.239
God continues to
progress, as his creations expand and his spirit offspring multiply.
#2:
Pre-existence and our First Estate
Book of Moses
3:5-7 (Pearl of Great Price, LDS Scripture)
Every form of life
was created spiritually in Kolob first.
Book of Abraham
3:22-23 (Pearl of Great Price)
At first we were
all spirit children, living in the presence of God, our heavenly father.
Jesus the Christ,
Apostle James Talmage pp.15-16
Apostle James
Talmage's detailed explanation of the primeval council of the Gods.
Book of Abraham
3:23-28 (Pearl of Great Price /LDS Scripture)
A Council called
of all the leading spirits.
Book of Abraham
4:25-26
God proposed a
plan for our progression. [Ed: to a council of “higher Gods for their approval]
Book of Abraham
3:24-26, Doctrine & Covenants 29:39.
That plan was for
us to come to earth, gain physical bodies, learn good from evil and have the
free agency to choose which we wanted to follow.
Moses 4:1-4,
Abraham 3:27-28 (Pearl of Great Price)
Lucifer, our elder
brother who desired the glory for himself, stood up and proposed his own plan.
Ensign (official
Church magazine), December, 1980, pp.3-5.
"Jesus of
Nazareth", Spencer W. Kimball, First Presidency Message:"His [Jesus']
trials were continuous. Perhaps his brother, Lucifer, had heard him say when he
was still but a lad of 12, 'Whist ye not that I must be about my Father's
business?'" (Luke 2:49)
"...Then came
the time when Satan thought to trip him. Their encounter in the previous world
had been on more equal terms, but now Jesus was young and Satan was
experienced."
Moses 4:1-3 (Pearl
of Great Price)
Lucifer's plan was
to take away our free agency, force us to obey all the law. He wanted us to
worship him.
Moses 4:2
Jesus stood and
offered himself as our sin-offering, giving man his free agency and the chance
to attain eternal glory, or godhood with heavenly father.
Abraham 3:28
All the council
voted No to Lucifer and Yes to Jesus.
Abraham 3:28,
D&C 29:36-37.
Lucifer, very
angry, persuaded one-third of the spirit children to follow him and rebel
against God and the plan of Jesus. They were cast from God's presence and sent
to this earth without bodies of flesh and bone.
MD, p.828, D&C
29:36-41
Describes the war
in heaven, Lucifer sent here to earth where he continues to battle against the
saints.
MD, pp.526-528,
Moses 5:16-41, 7:8-22.
Those who were
least valiant in the pre-existence are known in mortality as negroes. They came
to earth through the lineage of Cain, with black skin.
#3: The
Creation of the Earth and our Second Estate
D&C 77:12, Moses
1:39, Abraham 3:19.
The earth was
created, in the same fashion of many worlds, populated by intelligent people,
in his image. Man would always be learning and growing.
Abraham 2:28
God tells Abraham
about the “heavenly” control center, Kolob.
Book of Mormon, 2
Nephi 9:25-26, Alma 42:17-21.
The earth is
controlled by eternal laws. If we break one, we must be punished.
Moses 4:29-31
Adam and Eve are
cast out of the Garden.
Moses 5:6-9
They learn that
their transgression was necessary that man might live. Adam is baptized,
received the Holy Ghost and the priesthood. He becomes the first patriarch.
MD, p.546-547.
Our Lord is the
only Son of the Father in the flesh. Each word is to be understood literally.
Christ was begotten by an immortal father in the same way that mortal men are
begotten by mortal fathers.[ Ed: what this means is that God has sex with his
daughter Mary]
MD, p.742.
God is an immortal
personage, an exalted man...Christ is his literal son...there is nothing
figurative about his paternity...He was begotten, conceived and born in the
normal and natural course of events.
ACMM, p.235.
The Lord is now
sending the Choicest Spirits to earth. "I see an improvement each few
years in the young people of the church. I believe that you are the cream of
all the spirits in the hosts of heaven and God has sent you here to do a great
work." Mark E. Peterson (apostle) BYU address.
#4: GODHOOD Our
Third Estate
MD, p.321
That exaltation
which the saints of all ages have so devoutly sought is Godhood itself.
MD, p.321
"You have got
to learn how to be gods yourselves...the same as all gods have done before
you." (quoting Joseph Smith)
History of the
Church, (HC) vol.6, p.306, by Joseph Smith.
My Father worked
out His Kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get
my kingdom, I shall present it to my Father, so that He may obtain Kingdom upon
Kingdom, and it will exalt Him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation,
and I will take His place, and thereby become exalted myself.
ACMM, p.3.
If God became God
by obedience to all of the gospel law with the crowning point being the celestial
law of marriage, then that's the only way I can become a god. [answer] Right!
[Ed: he had to earn his godhood and be approved for godhood by his god]
ACMM, p.203.
(12-15) The
endowment is the celestial course of instruction...being enabled to give them
the key words, the signs and tokens, pertaining to the priesthood and gain your
eternal exaltation in spite of earth and hell.
D&C 124:28-36;
127:128; 128:15
Baptism for the
dead/keys to the holy priesthood ordained so you may receive honor and glory.
For their salvation [the dead] is necessary and essential to our salvation.
D&C 131.
Three degrees of
glory, celestial the highest.
Moses 1:39
This is my [God's]
work and my glory: to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man
D&C 76:51-60,
70.
vs.51-53 list some
of the requirements, vs.54-60, 70 list the rewards. They [temple Mormons] will
be Kings and Priests and Gods
D&C 132:19-20.
Then shall they be
Gods, they shall have all power, the angels are subject to them.
ACMM, pp.131-132.
(1-12) The Lord
commands marriage.
(1-13) Exaltation
is based on celestial marriage.
(1-14) Then shall
they be Gods, because they have no end.
(1-15) Only
resurrected and glorified Beings may become Parents of Spirit Offspring.
(1-17) Celestial
marriage prepares men to be Kings and Priests unto God.
(1-18) Celestial
marriage makes women Queens and Priestesses to their husbands.
(1-19) Celestial
marriage makes it possible for us to claim our moral children in eternity as
well as to propagate ourselves throughout eternity.
D&C 132:1-7,
27-35, 49, 61-64.
New and
Everlasting Covenant [plural marriage]: Abide or be damned, etc. Law of the
Priesthood/also the name of the temple covenant sworn by all the temple
endowment sisters.
MD, p.529-530.
Celestial marriage
is the new and everlasting covenant of (plural) marriage.
#5: JOSEPH
SMITH
Come unto Christ,
Melchizedek Priesthood Manual, 1984, pp.126-132.
If we get our
salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory,
it will be through the authority that he has received. We cannot get around
him.
D&C 1:17-18;
35:17.
God called Joseph
Smith and commanded him to proclaim the gospel...Fullness of gospel set forth
by Joseph Smith.
HC, vol.6,
pp.408-409.
[Joseph Smith
speaking] I have more to boast of than any man ever had. I am the only man that
has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A
large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter nor
Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers
of Jesus ran away from him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me
yet.
HC, vol.6, p.78.
[Joseph Smith] I
combat the error of ages; I meet the violence of mobs; ...I cut the Gordian
knot of powers, and I solve mathematical problems of universities, with truth
diamond truth; and God is my "right hand man."
HC, vol.6, p.319.
[Joseph Smith] God
made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the children of Israel, and He will make me
to god to you in His stead, and the Elders to be mouth for me; and if you don't
like it, you must lump it.
LDS Hymn Book,
#147, 296, "Praise to the Man"
"Long shall
his [Joseph Smith's] blood which was shed by assassins plead unto heaven while
the earth lauds his fame."
LDS Hymn Book,
"Joseph the Seer"
"He pleads
their cause in the courts above...He died, he died for those he loved...He
reigns, he reigns in the realms above...Unchanged in death with a Saviour's
love, he pleads their cause in the courts above...The Saints, The Saints, his
only pride, For them he lived, for them he died."
D&C 135:1-7.
To seal the
testimony of this book (The D&C) and the Book of Mormon, we announce the
martyrdom of Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Hyrum Smith, the Patriarch...It
shall be said of me, He was murdered in cold blood.
Joseph Smith,
History 2:30-59 (Pearl of Great Price)
The story, in
Joseph's own words, of the angel Moroni's visit, the uncovering of the gold
plates and the eventual translation of the Book of Mormon.
Joseph Smith,
History 2:55-56.
Joseph involved in
treasure seeking.
Joseph Smith,
History 2:17-20.
All Christian
creeds were an abomination in [the LDS god's] sight, and all Christian
professors were corrupt.
D&C 20:1-2
Joseph Smith
commanded to organize the church.
#6: ANOTHER
JESUS?
The Christ of
Mormonism is not the same Christ of the Bible.
2 Cor.11:3-5 tells
us that there will be those who would teach a different Christ. Paul says of
them, "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as
apostles of Christ". There is a Biblical warning about those who would
bring the doctrine of another Jesus and a simple test. Do the Mormons and their
Jesus pass that test? No.
The Mormons have a
difficult time understanding what actually happened at Calvary. In their
pamphlet, WHAT THE MORMONS THINK OF CHRIST, we see the problem. In the section,
The Blood of Christ (page 22 in the 1976 edition), we read:
"Christians
speak often of the blood of Christ and its cleansing power. Much that is
believed and taught on this subject, however, is such utter nonsense and so
palpably false that to believe it is to lose one’s salvation. For instance,
many believe or pretend to believe that if we confess Christ with our lips and
avow that we accept him as our personal savior, we are thereby saved. They say
that his blood, without any other act than mere belief, makes us clean.
"What is the
true doctrine of the blood of Christ? Salvation comes because of the atonement,
and the atonement was wrought through the shedding of the blood of Christ. In
Gethsemane Christ sweat great drops of blood from every pore when he
conditionally took upon himself the sins of the world, and then the shedding of
his blood was completed upon the cross."
The LDS Church
teaches in its Articles of Faith, Article 3,
"We believe
that through the atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to
the laws and ordinances of the gospel.”
The Mormon Jesus
has been stripped of his unique Deity and his sacrifice on the cross has been
robbed of its power. Theirs is a tragically bloodless Christ, whose death only
brought us immortality, NOT eternal life. Their Jesus forces us under laws,
ordinances and an all-too-human priesthood. This is not the "Good
News" of the Bible.
In the early LDS
church, there was a more orthodox Christ preached. But, when Joseph began to
teach the strange doctrines of this different Christ, one without the
redemptive powers, the church could no longer deal with the reality of the
blood of Calvary and its full redemptive work. That was when the church removed
the red wine from the communion table and went to water. This act literally
washed away the reality of the blood from its basically Christian converts. The
same holds true today. The cross and the blood have become strangers to the
saints.
#7: Another
Salvation
Mormonism teaches
that there are two separate levels of salvation. Bruce R. McConkie clarifies
the LDS distinction between these two LDS salvations, the general and
individual salvation:
1. Unconditional
or general salvation, that which comes by grace alone without obedience to
gospel law, consists in the mere fact of being resurrected. In this sense,
salvation is synonymous with immortality. This kind of salvation eventually
comes to all mankind, excepting only the sons of perdition.
2. Conditional or
individual salvation, that which comes by grace coupled with gospel obedience,
consists in receiving an inheritance in the celestial kingdom of God. This kind
of salvation follows faith, repentance, baptism, receipt of the Holy Ghost, and
continued righteousness to the end of one's mortal probation (Doctrine and
Covenants 20:29; 2 Nephi 9:23,24 BOM).
Even those in the
celestial kingdom, however, who do not go on to exaltation will have immortality
only and not eternal life. Along with those of the telestial and terrestrial
worlds they will be "ministering servants, to minister for those who are
worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory."
They will live "separately and singly" in an unmarried state
"without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity"
(Doctrine and Covenants 132:16-17).
3. Salvation in
its true and full sense is synonymous with exaltation or eternal life and
consists in gaining an inheritance in the highest of the three heavens within
the celestial kingdom. With few exceptions, this is the salvation of which the
scriptures speak. It is the salvation which the saints seek. . . . This full
salvation is obtained in and through the continuation of the family unit in
eternity, and those who obtain it are gods (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 669-70).
When Mormons claim
to be saved, it only means that they have gained this general resurrection.
Beyond this, everything in the LDS "plan of salvation" is by works
(Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 3:1257).
Thus, to meet a
Mormon on his own terms, one must ask the important question, "Do you have
eternal life?" Mormons believe that eternal life is exaltation, the
highest degree of salvation. Few, if any, Mormons dare to presume this eternal
life.
Jesus bore our
sins at Gethsemane according to Mormonism. The early quotes are like this one:
"Forgiveness is available because Christ the Lord sweat great drops of
blood in Gethsemane as he bore the incalculable weight of the sins of all who
ever had or ever would repent...In a garden called Gethsemane, outside
Jerusalem's walls, in agony beyond compare, he took upon himself the sins of
all men on condition of repentance" (The Promised Messiah, LDS Apostle
Bruce R. McConkie, p. 337 & 552.)
#8: MORMONISM :
Christian Churches are all False!
Pearl of Great
Price, Joseph Smith 2:19.
"I was
answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the
personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in
his sight; and those professors were all corrupt
McConkie, Mormon
Doctrine, p. 670.
"This Church
is the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth."
Doctrine and Covenants 1:30. "There is no salvation outside the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
Orson Pratt, The
Seer, p. 255.
"All other
churches are entirely destitute of all authority from God; and any person who
receives Baptism or the Lord's Supper from their hands will highly offend God;
for He looks upon them as the most corrupt of all people. Both Catholics and
Protestants are nothing less than the whore of Babylon."
Is Mormonism Christian?
I think not!
It has:
A different God
A different Jesus
A different Holy Spirit
A different Salvation
A different Scripture
A different origin
A different heaven
A different Eternity
Sorry, Mitt Romney, but you and your church
are not Christians!
The Dallas Pastor was right.
Ed Decker
ed@saintsalive.com
This website, www.saintsalive.com, has much more information on the Mormon cult and other cults.
Let's not try to play games with the Lord when we vote. That is what got this nation into the evil shape it's now in. If you want to vote for a Luciferian cult leader, at least be honest about it.
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